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The Legendary Pink Dots still going strong after more than 40 years

31 Januari 2023

The Legendary Pink Dots treden op donderdag 9 februari op in de Q-Factory. Het is een inhaalconcert dat een onderdeel vormt van hun Europese Post Pandemic Tour 2023. De band bestaat al ruim veertig jaar en heeft in die tijd ruim 75 studio- en live-albums afgeleverd, in de vorm van cassettes, elpees en cd’s. Tijdens hun concert spelen ze echter vooral recent materiaal. Oscar Smit, muziekmedewerker van oost-online belde met zanger Edward Ka-Spel, thuis in Londen

Oscar Smit | Foto’s Michael McGrath

Legendary Pink Dots (LPD) experimenteren al meer dan veertig jaar in de periferie van de popmuziek met intrigerende songs waarbij pop, elektronica, psychedelica en folk over elkaar heen buitelen. Centrale figuur en langste tijd lid van de band is de Engelse zanger Edward Ka-Spel. Hun Post Pandemic Tour 2023 is eind januari afgetrapt in Tel Aviv. Vanaf 9 februari touren ze door het vasteland van Europa. De meeste data zijn vanwege de pandemie uitgestelde concerten. Dat geldt ook voor d show op 9 februari in de Q-Factory.

Hoe ziet de band er uit die dan op het podium staat?

In september vorig jaar werd bekend dat een van de oprichters van de LPD, Phil Knight aka The Silverman, zou stoppen met live spelen. Hij is nu vervangen door de Amerikaanse toetsenist Randall Frazier, die ook al heel lang met de band samenwerkt. Hij stond in 2022 tijdens de 28 shows van de Amerikaanse LPD-tour al in het voorprogramma met de band Orbit Service, een soort zijproject van LPD. Dan is er verder de Nederlander Erik Drost op gitaar. Achter de PA zit geluidsman Joep Hendrikx uit Arnhem, die algemeen als vierde bandlid wordt beschouwd. Dit kwartet vormt het gezelschap dat op tour gaat. Zij doen samen alles, van het roadie-werk tot de merchandise-stand.

Welke muziek kunnen we verwachten?

“Het wordt een energieke set, een ‘psychedelic full on assault’ die heel intens zal aanvoelen”, aldus Edward Ka-Spel. Bij dat energieke vraagt hij zich af of, ‘dat wel zo verstandig is, mijn vorderende leeftijd in aanmerking nemende.’ De band zal vooral recent materiaal spelen met name afkomstig van hun recente album ‘The Museum of Human Happiness’ (2021) maar ook een paar songs van ‘Angel In The Detail’ (2019) en ‘Chemical Playschool 21&22’ (2021). Pas in de toegift zal er plaats zijn voor een enkel ouder nummer. ‘We krijgen veel e-mails over het spelen van oude nummers. Maar zo zijn we niet, we willen onze recente muziek spelen.’

Hebben jullie al een nieuw album gepland?

“Heel misschien gaan we een echt nieuw nummer spelen in Amsterdam, maar dat is nog niet zeker. Er komt zeker wel een nieuw album dit jaar. Tijdens de tour gaan we waarschijnlijk een paar keer onze Nederlandse studio in. Randall is voor een tijdje in Europa en daar moeten we van profiteren. Tijdens de pandemie hebben wel elkaar bestanden toegestuurd. Nu kunnen we weer samen in de studio zijn.” Ka-Spel heeft tijdens de pandemie ook iets anders geleerd: het belang van op een podium staan. Hij was toen in een soort van paniek en vroeg zich af: “wat als ik nooit meer live kan spelen?” Op toneel staan is een deel van zijn leven. Hij vraagt zich ook soms af of hij er niet te oud voor wordt. Maar omdat het zo belangrijk is voor hem realiseert hij zich dat als hij stopt hij juist veel sneller oud zal worden!

 


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January 31, 2023

The Legendary Pink Dots will perform in the Q-Factory on Thursday 9 February. It is a catch-up concert that forms part of their European Post Pandemic Tour 2023. The band has been around for over forty years and has released over 75 studio and live albums in the form of cassettes, LPs and CDs. During their concert, however, they mainly play recent material. Oscar Smit, music employee of east-online called singer Edward Ka-Spel, at home in London.

Oscar Smith | PhotosMichael McGrath

Legendary Pink Dots (LPD) have been experimenting in the periphery of pop music for over forty years with intriguing songs in which pop, electronica, psychedelia and folk tumble over each other. Central figure and longest-time member of the band is the English singer Edward Ka-Spel. Their Post Pandemic Tour 2023 kicked off in Tel Aviv at the end of January. They will be touring mainland Europe from February 9th. Most of the dates are postponed concerts due to the pandemic. This also applies to the show on February 9 at the Q-Factory.

What does the band look like on stage?

In September last year it was announced that one of the founders of the LPD, Phil Knight aka The Silverman, would stop playing live. He has now been replaced by American keyboardist Randall Frazier, who is also a longtime collaborator with the band. In 2022 he was already the support act for the band Orbit Service, a kind of side project of LPD, during the 28 shows of the American LPD tour. Then there is the Dutchman Erik Drost on guitar. Behind the PA is sound man Joep Hendrikx from Arnhem, who is generally regarded as the fourth band member. This quartet forms the group that goes on tour. They do everything together, from the roadie work to the merchandise stand.

What music can we expect?

“It will be an energetic set, a ‘psychedelic full on assault’ that will feel very intense,” says Edward Ka-Spel. At that energetic he wonders if, “that is wise, considering my advancing age.” The band will mainly play recent material, especially from their recent album ‘The Museum of Human Happiness’ (2021) but also a few songs from ‘Angel In The Detail’ (2019) and ‘Chemical Playschool 21&22′ (2021). Only in the encore will there be room for a single older number. “We get a lot of emails about playing old songs. But we’re not like that, we want to play our recent music.’

Have you planned a new album yet?

“Perhaps we will play a really new song in Amsterdam, but that is not certain yet. There will definitely be a new album this year. During the tour we will probably go into our Dutch studio a few times. Randall is in Europe for a while and we should take advantage of that. We did send files to each other during the pandemic. Now we can be in the studio together again.” Ka-Spel also learned something else during the pandemic: the importance of being on stage. He was kind of in a panic at the time, wondering, “what if I can never play live again?” Being on stage is part of his life. He also sometimes wonders if he isn’t getting too old for it. But because it is so important to him, he realizes that if he stops he will grow old much faster!

Source: https://oost-online.nl/the-legendary-pink-dots-na-ruim-40-jaar-still-going-strong

Scaremeister- Sunday live chat with The Legendary Pink Dots and Mark Spybey

Sunday Live Chat Tour Finale special with Legendary Pink DotS and Mark Spybey DVOA

Join us today from the last show of the Legendary Pink Dots Tours 2022 as they setup for a special on off night of performances in Denver. New LPD’S member Randall will host with Mark Spybey and give up a recap on the tour with thoughts from everybody. Mark Spybey will be performing DVOA set and will be there to co host and we’ll see what happens. Great poster from Simon Paul !

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RAD/ATL Edward Ka-Spel on the Legendary Pink Dots’ latest album, ‘The Museum of Human Happiness’

LPDs: Randall Frazier (from left), Erik Drost, and Edward Ka-Spel. Photo by Joep Hendrikx.

As memories of the COVID-19 pandemic and quarantine-time behaviors become a distant bad memory, the era has left impressions on the collective subconscious that are both subtle and monumental. This is where one finds The Museum of Human Happiness, the latest offering from London-based psychedelic musical explorers the Legendary Pink Dots.

Since August of 1980, the group’s enigmatic leader and vocalist Edward Ka-Spel has released a seemingly endless chain of albums, cassettes, and CDs with the Pink Dots, with various side projects, and under his own name. After more than 40 years in the group, Ka-Spel’s longtime friend, keyboard player, and co-founding member of the Dots Phil “The Silverman” Knight has retired from touring. But the show must go on. In the Silverman’s stead, keyboard player Randall Frazier of Bailey, CO’s Orbit Service has stepped into the fold. Ka-Spel checked in just as rehearsals were beginning for the group’s first trek in the brave new world with its newly configured lineup to tackle what he says is the most complicated set he’s ever performed.

The last time I saw the Legendary Pink Dots play live was in November 2019 for the Angel In the Detail tour. Was that the last time you played in the States?

Yes, we played a European leg of that same tour that finished on February the 29, 2020. That was when the pandemic really broke out everywhere. That was the last time we played live. To be honest it’s been a bit nerve-wracking coming back after nearly three years. It was a long and lonely stretch. I am happy to be playing shows, but it’s a real challenge.

What have the days been like for you leading up to playing live again?

Oh, frenetic. Today was absolutely frenetic. I got up at around 7:30 a.m., and the rest of the guys went into Denver to arrange for keyboard stands, and to get some mailers. I’ve got a lot of stuff to send out to people. Basically, I’ve brought all of the stuff with me from Europe so I can mail it out while I’m here.

While the guys were out picking up things I worked on the setlist and developed keyboard parts and collages.

I have also been going through songs in my head. Lyrically, this is the most complicated set I have ever had. I didn’t realize how intense the lyrics were in some of these songs. Some of them move quite fast from the start, like runaway horses. If you drop a word suddenly you’re lost. You have to keep up with it. It’s nice to have a challenge, though, and it is a big challenge. We’re playing a lot of new songs. It’s what we’re feeling right now, so it makes sense. There are a couple of older ones in there as well, but just what we really wanted to play.

You have the lineup in place: Erik Drost is playing guitar, Joep Hendrikx is handling some live engineering and effects, and Randall Frazier is on synths, samples, and some vocals. But no Silverman this time around?

Phil is basically retired. Neither one of us are Spring chickens anymore, and, in a sense, Phil felt that it was time to hang up his keyboard. It’s a bit sad. I understand it, but I can’t do that myself.

What else would you do?

That’s exactly it! “What else would you do?” There are days when I feel a bit fatigued, but then I think about someone like Marshall Allen [leader of the Sun Ra Arkestra]. If he has the energy to do it at 98, surely, with 30 years to spare, I should be able to deliver.

This is the first Legendary Pink Dots tour without Silverman that I am aware of. Having gone through the process with him for so long, I imagine you’re sort of like each other’s support system on stage.

It’s true. It will be kind of strange being on tour without him. We have known each other for decades. We used to share hotel rooms after shows. But in some ways, I saw it coming. He wasn’t so involved in the last album, for instance. It was clear to me that he was withdrawing. It was also very hard with the pandemic raging on. He lives alone, so it was much harder for him than it was for someone like me. We were all absolutely tied to where we lived because there was nowhere to travel anyway.

I have family around me, and I had tremendous support from my wife who was always behind me. I tried to persuade him to keep going. I also asked: “What else will you do?” But he was ready to retire, and he has that right.

Are you playing the older songs differently now?

Oh yeah! But that would be the case even if he was still in the band. The songs have to grow and fit with how we feel at the time we play them. Otherwise it feels a little like karaoke, and karaoke doesn’t really fit with us.

There is always room for improvisation in your live sets.

We plan a set because it’s good to have this base, a rock that we can sit on, lean on. But we’ll decorate that rock more as we go, and find new little corners of the rock that weren’t apparent when we began. And this is a very complicated rock for this tour.

I once asked Marshall Allen about the improvisational element in his music. He described it as making music on a spiral. It’s constantly moving around and influenced by “the spirits of the day” that he encounters along the way. That’s a poignant way to explain how these songs—you know them when you hear them—are played a little differently each time.

That’s how it should be. It shouldn’t just be a “Let’s repeat the album as it is.” The album is just a starting point for the songs.

Is it the pace of the songs that makes them challenging?

The pace and the lyrics are quite complex. You have to run with the whole thing. Every song tells a story, and you have to keep up with it. Sometimes you might forget something, or have one little word dropped, and the whole thing’s off. Until it’s a part of me—it will always be a part of me— where I can just flip it out without looking at any kind of prompt, then I’ll know that I can at least relax, just a little bit.

You have released a lot of records over the years. Do you have a mental map of what’s on the records or is it just too much to retain?

There are so many records. I can’t keep up. It’s like you find a place when you’re on a tour, which is right for that moment. To dig deeper into history would complicate that moment a little too much.

Not too long ago I started writing a concert announcement for your Atlanta show and I had to stop to think about it: The Museum of Human Happiness is the proper new record. But so many releases have appeared on Bandcamp since then—both Legendary Pink Dots and your solo recordings. I think of it all as Edward Ka-spel’s music, but I lose the priority and the order sometimes.

It has something to do with the way the album was written. There were many songs in the pot when I started it. It was my wife who said, “You really want to zoom in on the songs that would create The Museum of Human Happiness. The absolute cream on the Milk. It was the same time as my solo album, Prints of Darkness. So a lot of what didn’t fit Human Happiness made it onto Prints of Darkness.

Since then, the pandemic has gone on, and I needed to keep writing and recording. It keeps you on your toes. There have been quite a few hours of that since then, and of course, there’s a new Chemical Playschool. Then there’s what I call the quarantine releases, and the 3 2s and a zero releases. There were four of those this year: Conspiracy of Pylons, The Concrete Diaries, Tales From The Trenches, and 100 Seconds To Midnight. It has all moved on since Prints are Darkness.

On the subject of The Museum of Human Happiness, do you think of it as a pandemic album? Is it a comment on social media?

It’s a place from a sad, dystopian future that I thought of. What will it be like when we literally have to live underground, and there will be reminders of what was on the surface. There’ll be this museum with all these things that reflect what was. Many songs are about the Pandemic. “Hands, Face Space,” “Coronation Street.” It’s a very British album. “Cruel Britannia” speaks for itself. I don’t like the way things are going in the UK at the moment. All of this right wing politics just sucks, to be honest.

Things aren’t a lot different in the U.S. at the moment.

I don’t understand what’s happened to the anglo-saxons. It’s like we’ve completely lost the plot. I don’t understand this kind of exclusion of whole swathes of human beings. The selfishness and the absolute hate that go along with it; why is it being stirred up by people who should know better?

I’m very fond of “Cruel Britannia” and “Nightingale.” Those two are very much like what I was going through during the pandemic. Nightingales were actually these strange hospital warehouse type things that were set up in the UK during the pandemic. It was obvious what they were. They literally were filled with hundreds of beds with ventilators next to them. But they never actually used them as far as I know. But they set them up all over the country. They don’t exist anymore. If they used them, they only used them very briefly. But it was obvious what they were—the end of the line. It’s like they expected things to get much much worse.

The lyrics aren’t about that exactly. The lyrics are about someone who’s subjected to a medical experiment.

What was the first song that you wrote for the record?

Probably “This Is the Museum.” It actually came from my daughter Alice. She came up with the idea. I think she wrote a poem called “The Museum of Happiness,” and I said wow, “The Museum of Happiness.” Do you mind if I use that, Alice?” She said of course you can use it! It’s really nice. I added the “Human” in there. Then I wrote the song, “This Is the Museum.” She really liked it and she wrote another poem which is a little bit based on my poem. It was really kind of nice. But yeah, she inspired that.

That’s why she gets a songwriting credit on the album.

Oh yeah, she’s credited on the album. When she said that, I just suddenly had the whole picture of this place, this museum, like a very modern underground.

Sometimes someone can just say something and you get this whole picture. It’s like a seed that just explodes and suddenly there’s a whole story and scenario there that you have to realize. And you have to capture it before it disappears. You dare not wait, because if you wait it’ll be gone.

I can imagine that after not having done it for so long, it has to be a rush.

Totally. And that’s just the rehearsals. To actually do it in front of people will be another thing. I’m also nervous about it, I can’t deny it.

Do you often get nervous before you play shows?

Yeah, I’d say so. It’s odd. When we’re performing, we all obsess over the little mistakes that could be made. Mistakes that, in reality, nobody hears. In the past, for example, when we’d play a song using physical sequences, they all started speeding up. So what do you do? You speed up with it! Still, nobody noticed. But how could you not notice that?

You can call it improvisation!

Yeah, really! That’s a moment when we’ve all gotta think of something to do, right in this split second.

Randall Frazier has stepped into the Legendary Pink Dots. He’s performing the duties that Phil has traditionally handled?

Sort of. We want Randall to be Randall, and to do what he feels is right for the songs. Not simply reach for a line that’s already there, but to take his own lines and his own parts because then the music becomes his as well.

He’s also a sound engineer. Actually, in this touring party there are three sound engineers in the group. So if something goes amuck, there should be a solution in there somewhere, and they’ll find it.

Way back in the ‘90s, Orbit Service was a much larger band with more members. They opened for the Legendary Pink Dots in Denver at the Bluebird Theater. Since then, we’ve played on records together and done a few tours together. To me, Randall is family, and he has been for a long time. Now he’s on the front line as well.

The Legendary Pink Dots and Orbit Service play Purgatory at the Masquerade on Friday, November 4. $22.50 (adv.). 7 p.m.

Source: RAD/ATL

Sunday Live chat with Edward Ka-Spel, Mark Spybey and cEvin Key

Streamed live on Oct 9, 2022
Edward KaSpel from Legendary Pink Dots and Mark Spybey from Dead Voices on Air together in one chat! LPDS is about to hit the road for a month long Museum of Human Happiness tour of North America. Mark will be joining Edward at the end for some solo shows in Denver and Austin. Together we’ll discuss the shows , news and even some of our favorite and unexpectedly strange musical likes ! exciting times !

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Release Music Magazine- Ka-Spel and Key return to The Tear Garden

by Alex Veronac
AUGUST 11, 2017

KaSpel and Key return to The Tear Garden – interview

Release had the opportunity to get some time with Edward Ka-Spel to speak about the new Tear Garden album “The Brown Acid Caveat”. They started in 1986, a time when vinyl distribution and print magazines were key to getting your band name out. 30 years later, Ka-Spel and Cevin Key are at it again with their 10th release and its a different world now. For this session, Edward was in London and our writer in Zürich.

“Cevin was especially great with this campaign”

The Tear Garden entered into a crowdfunding campaign which had an excellent reception. The recordings and release preparation were through July 2016 – June 2017.

Can you give us some indication on the commitment to be on a schedule for such a crowdsourcing goal? You hit 177% on PledgeMusic.

– It was a very new experience for me but it did allow us the luxury of bringing in guest musicians and having a fine engineer like Greg Reely providing the final master. Cevin was especially great with this campaign, ensuring it went smoothly, keeping all who supported us in the loop. I think I’m too disorganised to have managed that side of things…


Photo by: Siobhan Louise O’Keefe and Peter Clarke.

I recall viewing the crowdsourcing page and the promo video. You mentioned a trans-Atlantic collaboration. Was there an opportunity to meet Cevin while the recordings were still being actively worked on?

– Cevin had to deal with health issues during the recording, so it meant we couldn’t get together during the actual recording but I stayed with him very recently in LA where he lives, when we had the Tear Garden listening party.

What other musicians are present on “The Brown Acid Caveat”? I believe I hear a resonator guitar on “Object”.

– Actually a handmade ring modulator… Martijn had it for years. Guests were former Legendary Pink Dots members Ryan Moore, Martijn De Kleer and Patrick Q. Wright while old friend Dre Robinson also played a part.

creating TBAC

Album artwork and imagery

Record buyers read a lot into album covers, names and liner notes. The mixed media promo photo/painting of you, Cevin and the guests in a garden with the three roses in front. Were these people ever together or is this a collage? Maybe you can give your impressions of the album art?

– We were certainly together and it was a very special garden, but you could say the pic was lysergically enhanced.

While recording, does Cevin ever come back and say “Edward you’re really missing the point on this song, please rework it”? Or is he too polite and respectful?

– He can get me in line if I’m following a melody line that strays too far from the structure!

Is “Lola’s Rock” the anchor track to the title “Brown Acid Caveat”?

– Sounds like it, doesn’t it? But not intentional…

Who gave the titles to the “Brown Acid Caveat” songs?

– Titles were mine. The first brown acid caveat was issued to a million hippies in a field at the first Woodstock Festival in ’69.


From the days of old.

Tour plans

For Ka-Spel’s main project The Legendary Pink Dots, it’s amazing at how much touring they’ve done over the last 15-20 years, but sadly no Tear Garden live gig yet.

I have a decent memory and maybe it was an attention grabbing gimmick, or maybe it was fact but sometime circa 2002-2004, Cevin Key spoke of maybe doing a Lollapalooza-style tour with a number the Skinny Puppy side projects. Did he ever convey this idea to you about Tear Garden?

– It was in the air and somehow never quite happened. But a tour is a reality that will happen.

The Tear Garden “Eye Spy Volume 2″ was released on the 7th of July. Can you comment on any possible comparisons with “The Brown Acid Caveat”?

– Material for “Eye Spy” is old although much was finished recently. Still I think it’s a universe in itself.

12 songs is a pretty healthy offering for a crowdfunding effort. Are there any left-overs that might spark a second session, or an extra tracks release?

– No, but more recordings is already underway.

Discogs.com say Legendary Pink Dots has released 98 albums, will LPD hit the century mark?

– 98? I had no idea… But yes we most certainly will.

You just finished an album and tour with Amanda Palmer, would it happen again?

– I hope so… it was a very fulfilling project. Amanda is a delight to work with; creative, sensitive and a workaholic like myself… But we’ll see.

Do you ever find some old lyrics that has been hidden for some time, that get used in new material?

– Occasionally.

Finally, do you have something to remark on that was maybe a past misconception, or false truth about yourself?

– The drug stories… I enjoy the odd margarita or glass of sangria and there it stops.

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